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Jan Lelie's avatar

Thanks Hans. It also costs me a lot of energy and concentration to find out which words to use. Also, I cannot know what's useful for you. Speaking for myself, our relationship is useful for me. Just because you've asked me to express my ideas.

I'm using the "toolmaker metaphor" in communicating: finding out meaning through exchanging using words. Through exchanging we invent or discover uses, which we can use to enhance our exchanges: given enough time - energy and concentration - usefulness will happen.

There're no bad words, only wrong ones. Using words wrongly is better than not using words at all.

We use words - sounds - to express our thoughts, yet one doesn't think in words. The brain is silent. Perhaps to fill this void, - to a-void :-) - (human) beings use sounds and learned to use sounds as tools for communicating "thoughts". Sounds don't make up thoughts, yet the STRUCTURE of the sounds account for their usefulness. To paraphrase Korzybski.

I concluded that the structure of our use of words - language - is inadequate, as our structuring reflects the "conduit metaphor": a linear structure. We implictely assume, using the "right" words implies understanding the "right" behaviour. Because then we can make our behaviour right through using the rigt words. For instance: "defending freedom by prohibting the use of certain words". Dictation.

Off course, this invokes a double bind: one cannot come back on ones words. You can see this process in the current talks on a new cabinet.

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This usefulness I relate to pragmatism and my use of the word pragmatism indicates - for me - "behaviour that works" . Pragmatism in my view consists of a paradoxical concept. Things that won't work, still "work".

I'm not a pragmatist, if you mean a follower of pragmatism from Peirce, James and Dewey.

Language and words are tools. Tools are man made and men make tools: our tools - or our use of them - make us human. A carpenter (m/f/t) is defined by tools and a hammer "makes" the carpenter.

While using a hammer it is as-if one is a carpenter. Likewise, it is as-if words make us belong.

I borrow the word "pragmatism" from Watzlawick (Pragmatics of Human Communication). I use it to qualify (human) behaviour: what works, works. But, reality is what works. (Translating Jung's saying: "Wirklichkeit ist aber, was wirkt".)

All behaviour works the way it works, induces thinking to explain "how this works". When one confuses explanation - truth - with reality - proving - one induces pragamatical paradoxes. Using words as-if they're real.

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hans konstapel's avatar

I am not a pragmatist so yhis website costs a lot of concentration and therefore energy to find out what is useful for me.

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